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Team Meat Dooms Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo

Team Meat does not like developing games on consoles. And their opinion of the consoles have lead one member of the team to doom Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony. Saying this will be the last console generation. 

In an interview with Eurogamer Tommy Refenes said that the team has problems with the overhead cost of developing on consoles. It’s expensive for indies, especially when developing on unproven systems.

“It costs zero dollars to develop on Steam if you already have a computer,” he said. “When you look at PlayStation and Xbox and Nintendo you have to buy thousand dollar dev kits and pay for certification and pay for testing and pay for localisation – you have to do all these things and at the end of the day it’s like, ‘I could have developed for other platforms and it would’ve been easier.’”

“You have to take into consideration that when you’re independent, you don’t want to take the risk of jumping on a platform that you have no idea how it’s going to do until it’s already established,” added Edmund McMillen. “When you look at WiiWare, when it bloomed when World of Goo came out it was like, ‘Holy shit! This is a great platform to develop for,’ and then it was like a gold rush and everybody was jumping on WiiWare.

“What they should have done was wait a little longer to see if it would continue. Because then it just dropped and nobody cared.

“Imagine if we got put in another situation like with Xbox where we were nailed down to this contract of semi-exclusivity and we had to jump through all these hoops and kill ourselves and then pay shit-loads of money to get on a platform that’s not established yet and then it comes out and doesn’t do well – imagine that. That’s fucking horrible.”

Refenes isn’t keen on the PS5 and Xbox 720 being much better than what’s already out on the market.

“I don’t feel there’s a need to have anything more than what’s out right now,” he said. “An iPad comes out and does a year’s worth of console sales in a weekend. The people in the market to play games are more apt to grab an iPad or a tablet or a fancy phone because it’s more convenient.

“I don’t feel confident there’s going to be a PlayStation 5. I don’t feel confident there’s going to be another console after the Wii U. There probably will be, but it’s totally diminishing returns. It’s sad. I like the consoles, and I prefer playing something in my living room. But I’m also not in that range of consumer that actually sort of dictates trends at this point.”

“If Nintendo or Sony or Microsoft – well, we’ll cut off Microsoft at this point – but if Nintendo or Sony came to us and said, ‘we have a minimum guarantee of X, Y, Z, we really want you to develop a game for our next system that’s coming out in year whatever, if you have something to work on we want to work with you, here’s a free kit to develop for us and here’s a minimum guarantee or advance,’ then we’d be way more inclined to develop for them, but it wouldn’t be an exclusive deal,” added McMillen.

“That’s an important thing for us.”

Needless to say, I don’t agree with this guy. There will be another console generation because of the exclusive games you can only play on the consoles. Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo have to work that much harder to make games people want to buy. It’s plain and simple. All of these casual gamers buying games now might not be incluined to buy games in a few years or buy a lot of games. We’ll just have to wait and see.

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  • sergio111293

    Wow, Refenes is Bumming me out. T-T So pessimistic.
    I understand that being an Indie Developer is very difficult(especially in this economy), but to say that there will be no more consoles Next generation is taking a shot in the dark.
    Sony & Nintendo will most definetly have new consoles thanx to Exclusives(If Sony doesn't bomb like with the PS3 & Nintendo keeps releasing games at a steady pace). Of course, Microsoft doesn't care about exclusives & I still fail to see the relevence of the Xbox when it relies almost Solely on Multiplats & features that U can get on PC and/or PS3 (Gears & Halo are Great, but they're not that great alone). I think This gen, Kinect is gonna be the Main selling point to Consumers for the Xbox720. :/

    • Furious Francis

      Totally agree, MS is going to have trouble selling the Xbox this gen because they don't have the franchises. A lot of people got burned with the Xbox 360. The RROD was crap. I'm not buying another Microsoft console ever.